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		Pablo618 - ^{I am the Iron man Proto-babil!!} TALK - Time for Dark Matter {{{time}}}



		I have just learned how to do a table without copying from another user

I'm a beginner wiki user, and I can't figure out how to make a info box, can someone give me a list of codes for this type of stuff or something. Because i can't get enough info from this. --UndyingvsSephiroth 00:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Copy the code from this table:

8bit BlackMage 00:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

More table class?


			In Pursuit (talk), 01:04, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
			I want to know if there's a list of table "class" such as "infobox" and "sortable", because I find no such infomation in the help:tables. Thx.

Revamp

I began writing a much more in-depth Table FAQ here. My question now is, is there a demand for such a thing? Do we find this help page widely used? Doreiku Kuroofangu 09:47, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, back when I was new, I tried to use this page only to find it confusing, difficult, and evil. This has contributed to my long-standing fear of tables. Jimcloud

09:50, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Finished the first draft of my table guide, any suggestions to improve it are welcome. Doreiku Kuroofangu 10:41, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Quite good, but you don't speak of the CSS classes in the colouring part. You could make something like:

"CSS classes are used as predefined code. In FFWiki, we use these classes on our tables to colour them uniformly and easily by corresponding the Hexadecimal colour codes to the game's name."

I do suggest a rephrasing of this. Please don't put my weak english on a help page. - Henry acores ^ 19:37, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good. What I would add in the table widths section is never mix "width=x%" with "width=xpx" in the table, as this may confuse some browers (like crappy IE) and will not take notice of the width constraints you've added.

Incidentally, I've noticed the the "D012" and "T4WoL" classes (both a and b) don't work in the new wikia skin. Since Drake has conveniently told the admins to look in this direction, I'd thought I'd add it here. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 20:07, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'd just note that CSS class administration's responsibility belongs to Admins and above. - Henry acores ^ 20:09, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

I approve muchly. Thanks for doing this, Drake. I'll add it to the policy list. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 00:28, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

The demand might not be existent, but this sure is a helpful guide. Maybe it should mention the standard, consistent table format that we used extensively throughout the wiki at some point in the guide. ^BLUER一番 08:56, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

What would that be? Lay it out and I'll add it in. Doreiku Kuroofangu 09:15, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

{|border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%"

This is the standard table opener that the wiki has and still continues to use; the idea is to mirror the table borders and lines used in the classic FF games. Further details were written in the this section. ^BLUER一番 09:27, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Added. Doreiku Kuroofangu 09:45, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

If I were to add anything substantive, I would probably add some more on justification, both in terms of how to get a table to display right/left/center, as well as align/valign instructions, then maybe tack on something if there's any need for some of the more advanced things in a secondary page. I know there is a table of styles somewhere, but invariably someone will start creating tables without regard for the styles we have laid out here. While it is good to know all this stuff, its kind of important, too, that whatever tables someone makes fit into whatever visual aesthetic we pretend to have here. I might, on a stylistic side, I might suggest throwing examples on the right hand side with the explanation on the left. The current presentation is circa 1992-web-effective, but not very visually interesting. I know its not supposed to be, but presentation does effect retention. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 22:55, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Adding from other wiki

Can we add Userboxes here from other wikis, it's because there is no terra (From BBS) userbox and yet his other pals Ven & Aqua had userboxes here. BusterTsurugi 2NE100:58, February 6, 2011 (UTC)


		Xepscern - It's Morphin Time!! TALK - 01:14, February 6, 2011 (UTC)



		Well, maybe because... you know... THIS ISN'T THE KH WIKI! We have our own terra, and she's much better.


		DrakeyC - Crossing the distant night...Wandering the desert sea...The gods' voices are mirages... TALK - 01:15, February 6, 2011 (UTC)



		Actually we do have a BBS-Terra userbox, it's perfectly visible to anyone with the intelligence to look at our userbox page.

so drake, whats the code for him BusterTsurugi 2NE102:24, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/FFWiki/KH%20Userbox%20Images/TerraBox.png

Someday, this user will set things right.

That. Jimcloud 02:37, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but how if like i finished vanitas remnant and unknown in bbs yet i'm a fully fledged ff wiki user ?? BusterTsurugi 2NE102:46, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

You're not a fully fledged user until you learn proper punctuation. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 23:17, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Collapsible tables

I'm trying to get collapsible tables to work on the Breath of Fire Wiki (I'm not an admin), but I can't seem to find where the classes (for example collapsible collapsed) are found and what other code you need for them to work. I've looked in both Common.css and Common.js here and on Wikipedia with no luck. Any help would be very appreciated
http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af293/DilsDileva/GoldEggCenturion.png Dils Dileva 10:22,3/2/2012

Search for the word NavFrame in either wiki's common.css and common.js. Those sections of code should be what you're looking for. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 12:33, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll see if it works :D
http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af293/DilsDileva/GoldEggCenturion.png Dils Dileva 12:48,3/2/2012

Update

I think we should update/cleanup this help page as it has too many information for my tastes and we should include only the most important things regarding the Wiki. The more advanced options could be covered in a subpage. And yes, I know that you think that all these information are equal to be here, but this page is too long, has too many information, and doesn't really have helpful lines of codes gathered in one place.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 18:49, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

I was going to rewrite this at one point but I never got around to it. The page should include everything about article tables: That being the basic syntax for the table, classes, class-colours, suggested widths, and comments on colspan and rowspan. 79.69.196.41 21:27, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, it's good to know that someone actually wanted to rewrite that. I would suggest starting fromt he very basics and most important information regarding the table creation (class="table" and style="text-align:center" first come to mind) continuing with more advanced coding, ending with some very complex. I would also suggest adding instructions of how to code efficiently to save space on pages which in turns gives clearer codes to modify.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 22:47, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Help is our worst namespace. C A T U S E 22:51, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

I believe most of it was written by Hecko about five+ years ago. I was meaning to overhaul it but it takes so much out of ya to do this stuff. I hate just doing the usage sections on infoboxes. Also I want to overhaul most of how we do a lot of stuff.

Maybe when I have more time on my hands I'll propose a re-write and do other stuff. That would probably have to be sometime after the wiki's/Wikia's CSS is reverse engineered tho'... and I'm not going to do that. I'm just babbling now. 79.69.196.41 22:56, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Also Shared Help makes it look worse. Although we can CSS shared help out of Help pages we don't want it in. 79.69.196.41 22:57, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Let's do that. >_> We do not want to encourage people to use the awful What You See Is What You Get (or What You See Is What You Don't Get, in this case), assuming that thing is even enabled here. C A T U S E 23:01, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Completely disabled here. Which brings up an important question, how do you disable it? It's on my test wiki and I cannot stand it, nor do I know the place to disable it if I can indeed do it from a wiki page itself. 79.69.196.41 23:03, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

You need a community consensus and then special:contact/general it in and then Wikia can choose to veto it for [insert contrived reason here]. I assume since it's a test wiki you don't even need consensus. C A T U S E 23:05, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Update #2

Have anyone considered updating the page with what can be inserted into style thing? I know we can insert width, font-size, font-family, font-variant, and few others, but sometimes (I don't remember everything) I need to search for an article to look for the thing where you can code italics into the text instead of using double apostrophes which seems to be desired by the Wiki to be used in paragraphs and bullet points.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 11:14, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

I revive.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 12:37, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

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